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... the street to the MSO, where the vehicle was there, spacecraft 12, 012, that’s it’s designation. There was a whole vehicle. There were two designs, Block I and Block II ... it says, “American Bridge Company ,” which is the I-beam part of, at that time, U.S. Steel. In other words, they just took these big I-beams and shaved them off ... vegetation on both sides, stars, and stars, and if you’re cruising along, it’s noiseless. Here’s this big alligator coming up, and they’re sitting the way they do, draped ...

... were what, a sophomore in high school when World War II ended? '''Armstrong:''' That's approximately—let's see. Yes, I was between my sophomore and junior year. '''Ambrose:''' The assumption among ... and jumped out in the vicinity of Pohang Airport, K-3, which was operated by U.S. marines. '''Ambrose:''' Could you eject or did you jump? '''Armstrong:''' I ejected. The old-style ... here, but we ought to let people know that we were here and put a U.S. flag. My job was to get the flag there. I was less concerned about whether ...

... with another guy, another French guy, and the two of us went to Star City U.S.S.R. . '''Butler:''' During that time from 1961 to when you were selected in 1980, were ... course, I was meeting the bachelors of the U.S. Embassy. We had always at a bar meeting at the Marine Club of the U.S. Embassy, where all the military bachelors were meeting ... where you are landing, because there are a lot of trucks and people in Kazakhstan U.S.S.R who know, and they are waiting, and when they see the parachute coming from ...

... . Upon graduating from K.U., I went to work for Convair, which is General Dynamics Corporation now at Fort Worth. Well, it’s not even General Dynamics; it’s Lockheed Martin Corporation now ... , I stubbed out my cigarette and have never smoked again. '''Butler:''' That’s great. That’s wonderful. '''Grimm:''' That’s just a little aside. It doesn’t need to get in this. So ... NASA as the deputy administrator on that job, and now I forget where he’s at. He’s not in NASA anymore, but he was a very aggressive individual. He was even ...

... they shipped a group of us off to Oxnard, California, to Point Magu. It’s a U.S. naval research establishment where they had a range, test range out into the Pacific Ocean ... of seven minutes. More or less continuous across the U.S., because you could put stations anywhere you wanted. Once you got off the U.S. territory, you had to look at locations like ... were just different states. That was all it was. It was all part of the U.S.S.R., all run from Moscow. Then Mikhail Gorbachev and his merry men, who didn’t ...

... obvious. So each one of those would sit on his haunches and say, "It's that guy's problem." So NASA had to resolve the problem and gave rise to the fact ... :''' It doesn't come through very clearly. If I'd been doing any reading on U.S. space activities, it seemed to me it was mostly concerned with the effort on the ... . Interesting job, very few politics, guys that I liked, and to some degree exploring the U.S.A., which I didn't know much about, so it all came together. '''Rusnak:''' Are ...

... met Sally K. Ride until we served together two years ago in the Review of U.S. Human Space Flight Plans Committee, the Augustine Committee, and actually I found her a very ... handle the media well, as being the first U.S. woman in space. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but that’s just what I’d heard. But Eileen, I ... down. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' While you were talking about that first mission, I was curious. The U.S. has a very different work ethic, work environment from the rest of the world, and ...

... of how we learned to operate the camera, and we worked very closely with the U.S. Geodetic Service people. In the back room, there was one room that was the lunar ... going at each stop. They had that all plotted out and so on. Well, the U.S. Geodetic Service was very, very involved in that, the people out of Flagstaff Arizona . The ... then this guy by the name of Tim M. H. Hait, who worked for USGS U.S. Geological Survey , would take a Polaroid picture. And then we'd move it another 3 ...

... Field, by the way. He eventually became the Commander of the Marine Boeing F-18 Hornet Test Detachment at NAS Patuxent River, Maryland, when we decided that we were going to ... . Bill Nelson, who was the Chairman of the Space Science and Technology Subcommittee in the U. S. House of Representatives , had accepted the invitation from the NASA Administrator to fly, and so ... we went to the presidential inauguration. Franklin was in the U.S. delegation. The Costa Ricans had wanted Franklin to head the U.S. delegation. I forget, I can’t remember which—1980; must ...

... next morning. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Which recovery ship were you on? '''Bourland:''' This was the USS Hornet. It had picked up the Apollo 11 crew and then picked up the Apollo 12 ... tell us some more about Tektite? Who was sponsoring that project? '''Bourland:''' That was the U.S. Navy and the University of California—I’m not sure which university was involved in ... on my shift, so I can’t take credit for it. It’s my understanding that Pillsbury and the U.S. Army and NASA were working on trying to develop a method to ...

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