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... the only one from the food laboratory. There were some other people from the medical side of that that were there. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Were you there when the crew arrived, or ... Dr. Clayton S. Huber was our boss. That was on the Technology Incorporated side, and on the NASA side, we had Dr. Malcolm C. Smith, Dr. Paul C. Rambaut, and Rita Rapp ... a zero-G plane testing the package. There’s a lot of different side stories. An interesting side story up there is when you open this wine—I don’t know if ...

... friendly and demonstrating cooperation. I think we were helping all of the engineers on both sides feel free to be more friendly and all that. One thing it’s hard to ... engineers and all, and they learned about our spacecraft. It was somewhat superficial because each side went into more depth in training about their own spacecraft, but at that time probably ... call the relative wind, I guess. We could look outside during reentry on the dark side of the Earth after we’d started down over probably…the Indian Ocean, we could ...

... , too. Then all through the development and testing of it, always the requirements, operational requirements side of it. '''Butler:''' How did you determine what those requirements would be? '''Brooks:''' Well, just ... it. I managed to get myself involved in that from the operations side again, and again from the systems side, making sure that power was available and what kind of power each ...

... a solution to his problem through surgery, but he knew that we were on his side in terms of doing that, him getting it done. '''Butler:''' Certainly a very unique relationship ... represented as being just one for biomedical studies, but obviously never could be that one-sided. During the Apollo program, the emphasis was on the operational aspects, and about the only ... the defined program goals, staying on the budget, seeing what the folks in the research side of the house were doing, and an endless series of meetings that we were always ...

... . Scott was working with them to explain the different milestones that they have on their side of the house. '''Clancy:''' Planning milestones on a daily basis. So each hour, like execution ... either move into the Constellation realm or start to get trained on the Space Station side of things. It depends on where the opportunities open up. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' We thank you ... ’t have a front room position on the Shuttle side. They are a front room position on Station side, but on the Shuttle side they talk through the FAO. We have an attitude ...

... . Scott was working with them to explain the different milestones that they have on their side of the house. '''Clancy:''' Planning milestones on a daily basis. So each hour, like execution ... either move into the Constellation realm or start to get trained on the Space Station side of things. It depends on where the opportunities open up. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' We thank you ... ’t have a front room position on the Shuttle side. They are a front room position on Station side, but on the Shuttle side they talk through the FAO. We have an attitude ...

... . So it was a good team, and they did a great job on the tracking side. '''Neal:''' You also, by that time, must have learned a few lessons about public relations ... ? '''Cooper:''' Yes. There was a question about what could an astronaut really see on night-side, in the dark; what could he see in the way of lights? So the people ... had a purge exit for hydrogen on one side of the fuel cell, hydrogen on one side, and a purge nozzle on the other side for oxygen; and then we had a urine ...

... of those craters was lined with aluminum. That was the beginning of the orbital debris side of the story, which ultimately has become more of a problem than the meteoroid problem ... not always. So we did pretty well. I did enjoy seeing it from the other side. Are you all contractors? '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Yes, we are. '''Cour-Palais:''' Do you have reports ... work? '''Cour-Palais:''' The building was just a normal office building, but on the lab side, we had the experience from General Motors Defense Research Lab. They were firing some toxic ...

... or other, but they went under the bridge in formation and came out the other side and delivered the airplanes. But that’s the story of the status of Grumman. Now ... :''' No, it wasn’t ever fair. '''Butler:''' Had there ever been any planning on your side with Grumman? Had there even been any talks, any testing of the LM ever filling ... . So the monies that were going into that program were canceled, canceled on the Rockwell side. Then we gave up the skis, the skids, skis, the deployment mechanism for the skis ...

... came down from Avro Aircraft Limited (Canada) James A. Chamberlin . He was working on the side to put the Gemini program together, so there was not much involvement for the aerodynamics ... , you just write a work order. '''Johnson:''' As you mentioned, you enjoyed the project management side of it. In 1963 you were Chief of the Aerodynamics Branch. You were talking about ... at the time with people, writing requirements documents for projects and whatever. That was one side of the company. We had another bright Air Force kid that worked in NASA while ...

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