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... keep getting these short half-life managers. Well, then the Challenger happened. Joe is the manager at the time. Joe had the TV in his—you know, the top manager's got ... company in New York, but he had in his hand a beacon. Little box about this big, with a little antenna like that, as a matter of fact. And he said, “If ... , and that when they landed, the astronauts were to push it through a little—there was a little opening for something or other they could take and push it out. So now ...

... system of program office with engineering support. The program office didn't have any—very little, if any, engineering personnel. So this was that they would have complete autonomy, the program ... define it. I mean, Joe Twombly probably defined it. You say I said—I don't remember saying this, but Gemini GNC Guidance, Navigation, and Control learned little if anything from Mercury ... department, and we talked a little bit. He didn't seem to have any further malice toward me. Laughter And we worked well with Aaron. Joe Shea died in April 1999 Did ...

... moving forward. We were starting to expand a little bit, and Joe Joseph F. Shea came in. Joe Shea and I became very close friends. Joe became one of my very first mentors at ... the checklists. So it was a very, very interesting experience. I do remember one little anecdote. When Joe Shea took me around, he took me around to introduce me to all the ... the luxury of a little more leniency in dollars, we still did program reviews in dollars. We did do a lot of reviews in dollars under George Low, Joe Shea, Tom J ...

... came from that ship. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' That’s fantastic. So can you tell us a little bit about the interview process that you went through and the application process? '''Hauck:''' Sure ... was just more of the same. I really enjoyed working with Crip and John and Joe. Joe and Dick were just fun to be with. They had a great sense of humor ... couldn’t have been better. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Why don’t you share with us a little bit about the training that you underwent for this mission. '''Hauck:''' Well, the most interesting ...

... . So you ended up with full nitrogen tanks. Those are the two little things that look like two little male elements at the back end of the vehicle. Those are the gaseous ... sure Joe’s was about 160. So we know that it worked quite well. Everything on the vehicle was a modification of something. Some of it was commercial hardware. Very little of ... one bank until all of the sieves were filled with the little CO2 molecules, if you can imagine them as little jellybeans that wouldn’t go through the hole while the oxygen ...

... is until you see this thing. Jet. Jet black, with these stars as tiny little dots. Tiny little dots you don’t see, because they don’t twinkle. It’s just absolute ... universe, but the whole Earth, and maybe the whole solar system, is nothing but a little atom in this vast universe. '''Wright:''' I believe Alfred M. Worden talked about being in ... never really worked on STS-5 personally, as a Shuttle program specifically for photography, but Joe Allen was the science astronaut on Apollo mission 15. He attended every single briefing that ...

... him on, unfortunately, which caused another investigation as far as the academy was concerned, because Joe Chamberlain was a world-renowned scientist, and who's this turkey down here in Houston ... understood that what was approved by Congress is what they implemented. So you had that little difference that was occurring between the science organizations and the engineering organizations. But I pretty ...

... going on. And then the Gemini program was really a fantastic program. It was a little larger than Mercury . It had two people. They were doing rendezvous and docking, and that ... in a long time, but it has been in some of the historical publications about Joe, and Joe's still alive. The press was demanding that, "When are we going to call ... 't think we have any business going up. But I would put John in a little bit different category. '''Kelly:''' You just mentioned commercialization of the space program. What are your ...

... with a lot of people going to them. But that was their Flight Techniques’ humble little start. '''Wright:''' How often did that group meet? '''Accola:''' It could have been weekly. It ... he had a couple of deputies, Mel Melvin F. Brooks and Jones W. “Joe” Roach. I remember Joe got the job of having me come in earlier, even before I started there ... . And they were just frantic, running around. You know, “Coordinate with this. Coordinate with that,” little pieces of paper. Then they had one master schedule for the crews, and they wanted ...

... . That is a good point. '''Butler:''' What did you work on there? '''Woodling:''' Probably very little from the actual training aspect. Under Warren North, and then later on after Dean F ... maybe the STA was a little bit later —no, they had at least one airplane configured for that. I used to like to go out to Joe Algranti in aircraft ops in ... :''' Oh, you had to go there? '''Butler:''' Yes, North Carolina, in fact. '''Woodling:''' Well, that little sucker, he wouldn't come here? '''Butler:''' Well— '''Woodling:''' You don't mind? '''Butler:''' Yes ...

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