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... the moment, worth talking about. '''Rusnak:''' Crew integration was something that obviously you had a little bit more interest in, at least. '''Haines:''' Well, there were more things happening at that ... schematics that the Apollo flight crews took with them on the flight. They were a little different than the schematics the flight controllers developed for their own use. Ours had certain ... works. First, we had an astronaut assigned to the Shuttle training aircraft development program, Joe H. Engle. Joe is one of the really good stick and rudder people. A lot of good ...

... afternoon with us. '''Harlan:''' You’re welcome. '''Rusnak:''' If we can start by getting a little bit about your background, maybe what some of your interests were growing up, what may ... Low. He was NASA, I think Lewis Research Center (now Glenn Research Center), Cleveland, Ohio . Joe Shea came from industry somewhere. But those guys had a lot of capability, a lot ... terminate the mission, basically. We would provide information on systems performance, if something was a little drifting off normal but still okay, to the flight director and they’d pass it ...

... Houston, Texas – 12 May 2000 '''Rusnak:''' Today is May 12, 2000. This oral history with Joe Kerwin is being conducted at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, for the JSC ... that. The doctor. I said, “German Measles is a mild illness in adults. A little fever, a little malaise, and then it’s over with. You think that will slow Mattingly down ... phenomenon, or Ash had discovered it with us as subjects. We felt, in retrospect, a little sheepish about our great conservatism and our fear of this experiment, which was totally unjustified ...

... our Space Division president, George W. Jeffs, was just a wonderful person. Our vice president, Joe Joseph W. Cuzzupoli, our division chief, Stan Yoshino phonetic , right down the line, were absolutely ... Walter Cronkite, which was a really outstanding experience. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Can you tell us a little bit about that? '''Dunbar:''' You know, I’m thinking back. I know I supported landing ...

... , the guy who would be the real-time CapCom for the mission, in this case Joe Joseph P. Allen. So he was on all these trips, and he served that function ... here at the Space Center to do that. But we had a little bit of time, and we did a little bit of that. I’ve got a whole stack of those ... ’s an interesting story, and I’ll talk about that a little bit from my own perspective. I have a little bit more limited perspective than Jack, because he was around here ...

... experiment in physics. There’s an intercom system, and the receptionist for the lab said, “Joe, Joe Allen, there’s a telephone call for you from a Captain Shepard.” I mean, there ... won an outstanding flying award. '''Allen:''' I did. '''Ross-Nazzal:''' Can you tell us a little bit about that? '''Allen:''' I shouldn’t on tape, because—the military tests show on ... the lunar landings. Apollo 11 had been successful in returning the first lunar samples but little else, scientifically. Apollo 12, very perfunctory geology. Apollo 13 didn’t make it. Apollo 14 ...

... at the pad. '''Harwood:''' No. You know how Guenter at the pad would give you little gifts. '''Borman:''' Yeah. To be honest with you— '''Harwood:''' You don’t remember. '''Borman:''' —I ... was the most emotional part of the flight for me. '''Harwood:''' Speaking of that a little bit, I get the sense from—(again from reading some of the recollections, especially Bill ... ’t have the experience in managing . He didn’t have that. So Joe—and Joe didn’t—took it awfully hard after the fire. That was the end of him. ''' ...

... astronauts, that’s what they mostly remember: those tests. But those tests, per se, had little to do with their actual selection; because the only questions I ever asked finally was ... , as a matter of fact, at Edwards. '''Donlan:''' Who was the other one? '''Slade:''' Joe Engle. '''Donlan:''' Oh, Joe Engle; yeah. '''Slade:''' Yeah; yeah. '''Donlan:''' No, they were—they came later when ...

... flights later, which meant Apollo 14 backup crew, which was Ron Ronald E. Evans and Joe Henry Engle would have been my crew on Apollo 17. Eighteen was cancelled. Decision was ... system in the loop, unlike the Russians and Soviets. They were truly passengers. They had little or no capability to do things emergencywise or otherwise. With everything that happened in our ... you're of a younger generation. Your outlook towards the environmental movement is probably a little different than mine is. I think a lot of people support and make the environmental ...

... , Thomas Kenneth T.K. Mattingly II and Henry W. Hank Hartsfield Jr. would go, or Joe Henry Engle and Richard H. Dick Truly, because they were the first three crews that ... -Diaz and I were classmates, and so we were beside ourselves. We were like two little kids. '''Johnson:''' Did the other crewmembers that had flown before take you under their wing ... unkempt.” We stayed there for a whole day, answering questions from these kids in this little elementary school. And we went to the presidential inauguration. Franklin was in the U.S ...

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